Wednesday, April 25, 2012

Train travel

We are going to France in July and are trying to decide whether to hire a car for all of the time or whether train travel would be an easier option. As a family(children 17, 15, 13 %26amp; 13) are there any good deals available for tickets/family railcards etc?



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It%26#39;s hard to give you any kind of worthwhile answer without some idea of your itinerary. Some places you really need a car, other places a car is the last thing you want.



There are significant advance purchase discounts (non-refundable) for longer trips and also some discounts that will apply automatically if you are booking for a party of six.




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Thanks IrishRvr



Our problem is that we haven%26#39;t decided where we are going other than that we are flying into Beauvais, Paris and are going to the Genesis concert at Parc Des Princes. We still have to decide whether we are going to travel a bit %26amp; come back to Paris to fly home or travel south as far as Marseille to fly home or Grenoble if Ryanair eventually put on flights back from there!! We have been advised not to hire a car in Paris!!



As I%26#39;ve asked in a previous forum any suggestions would be welcome!




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First off you definitely do NOT want a car in Paris. Probably the chepaest way for you to get from BVA to your hotel would be to take the airport coach to Porte Maillot on the western edge of Paris (13€ pax) and then, assuming you are travelling reasonably light, the métro from there to your hotel.



Obviously in July the south of France will be very busy, especially along the coast. What I would be tempted to do would be take the TGV (high speed train) from Paris to Avignon and then pick up a (large!) vehicle and head AWAY from the coast and the most touristy parts of Provence, either NW up into the Cévennes or NE up into the Lubéron and the foothills of the Alps. If the Grenoble flight is an option you could end up there and fly home. Otherwise even if you head away from the coast it would be fairly easy to get back to Marseille.



The six of you could travel one way from Paris to Avignon by train for as little as 150€ with advance purchase tickets. It would probably cost you more than that in fuel and tolls to drive from Paris, tplus the cost of the vehicle. And it would take 7-8 hours to drive whereas the train would take you 2.5-3 hours.



I hope this helps your thinking. Ask away if you have any more questions.




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Avignonet Lauragais Accommodation

I am organising a cycling trip along theCanal du Midi for 11 friends in May.





I would like to stay at, or near to Avignonet Lauragais, not Villefranche de Lauragais. I have found the addresses of several places on the internet but none of them have websites, email, etc, and so I have no idea what they are like, and whether they will be suitable for us





They are Hotel La Couchee



L%26#39;Obilisque



Hotel Pilori





Does anyone know these places and what they are like. Are there places nearby where we will be able to get an evening meal. Any assistance would be much appreciated




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Hi David





I live in Belesta Lauragais, close to Avignonet. The Obilisque never looks open, so I would double check with them. There isn%26#39;t a huge amount of commerce in Avignonet so you might struggle, especially on a Sunday or Monday night when there is very little open in this area.





You could look at starting a little further either side of Avignonet, such Revel, cycle the Rigole, which leads to the Canal du Midi, or perhaps Castelnaudary. in terms of things to do in the evening, both of these places have slightly more to offer than Avignonet.





If I can help anymore you can contact me via our website - www.lemoulinpastelier.com





Regards





Donna




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French Canals

Hi , I hope someone can help we are planning to do a canal barge/boat in the Midi region in the south of France. I have heard its lovely but am wondering if anyone can tell me what its really like.





Is this area as nice as other areas?Also any hints on what to take or do, we will probably hire bikes and have them with us on the boat.



We will be doing this hopefully in the beggining of June...








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Huckell,





A quick forum search using key words: canal, barge, boating, etc. should yield informative and immediate results.





Here are a few threads of possible interest:





http://tinyurl.com/yhy4tx



http://tinyurl.com/yf36dz



http://tinyurl.com/yk3bsl



http://tinyurl.com/yncodf



http://tinyurl.com/2nthsd




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It is very beautiful in this region, a good mix of the ancient with places like Carcassonne and a modern vibrant town like Toulouse. The canal is very pretty, lots of shade from the huge Plane trees as June can be very hot. The Canal runs through lots of interesting places, with a bike you should be able to see some great sights.




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info re: neighborhood around censier daubenton

I%26#39;m heading to Paris with a group of high school students. We will be staying in the 5th, near metro Censier Daubenton. I know we%26#39;ll be near the rue Mouffetard, but can someone give me a better sense of what the neighborhood is like, especially at night. My impression from past visits is that it%26#39;s very residential...am I right? Un grand merci!




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It is residential in some places. The Rue Mouffatard is always busy with pedestrians. there are some Bars and cheap eating places which might appeal to the students. There is a youth hostel and you are near the Sorbonne. We saw alot of you young people out and about on Rue Mouffatard. The Place De Itali is also very active with a young crowd. Blvd St. Michel is very lively too. The smaller streets are quiet at night.




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Hi Parishoes,





Paris regular Gitte K stayed near there last July and gave a description of the area you are talking about in her hotel review





tripadvisor.com/ShowUserReviews-g187147-d194…





I very much like the area to walk around in the daytime and it is so popular that I am sure there will be lots of people around in the evening too, as Suzanne noted.




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You will love it - as it is very much %26quot;Paris-as-I-expected-it%26quot;. Lively, pretty, lots of cafés and small shops (food, icecream, pastry, fruit, clothes, gifts, souvenirs etc) - and safe as a kindergarten playground. So you will have nothing to worry about - except that you will run out of money too soon.........




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On my first trip to Paris, my daughter and I stayed in a 2 atar hotel near the metro Censier D%26#39;aubenton. It was a fairly quiet area, there%26#39;s a really nice restaurant - La Comedie or similar - great italian food - and there%26#39;s some fantastic boulangeries. It%26#39;s a little out of the hussle of the centre, residential - but close to rue Mouffetard which has great restaruants, cafes etc....a 20 min walk or less will have you at the Seine...





Very safe at night...





Sandra




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Just a few restaurant suggestions:





1.



A Greek restaurant between Père Médard church and Censier Daubenton metro. I don%26#39;t know its name, but according to my map, it must have been in Rue de Candolle. Very tasty tzaziki and lamb skewer.Nice wine from Crete (brought back memories of summer holidays in my far away youth .....)





2.



Cave la Bourgogne on the square with the fountain in the middle, at the end of Rue Mouffetard (nr. 144). The terrace will be totally filled with people around lunch and dinner time, so try and book a table. Had absolutely wonderful confit de canard (salted duck%26#39;s leg roasted in its own fat twice...... yum-yum). Their %26quot;Salades composées%26quot; seemed to be very big indeed - I never tried them though.





3.



On the opposite side of the square, you can%26#39;t miss it. %26quot;Au Pére Médard-something%26quot;.... I can%26#39;t remember its correct name. Good salades composées, nice waitresses.





4.



%26quot;Le Petit Marguery%26quot;, 9 Blvd. Port Royal. Just leave the hotel, turn left and follow Rue Pascal down to the bridge, climb the stairs - and you are in Blvd Port Royal. This bistrot is very famous for its VERY good food, e.g. lobster for lunch - - - or so I have been told. I am so ashamed to admit that I never went there, even though I stayed so close to it. It is run by two brothers and is renowned for being one of the last original bistrots in Paris. Is a MUST-DO and is on my list for next summer (maybe a late loooong lunch after an afternoon visit to la Manufacture des Gobelins, which I have wanted so see for a long time)



Bonne dégustation.........




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Thanks to everyone! you%26#39;ve confirmed my thoughts based on my limited experience in that area. (I usually stay around Montparnasse/St Germain when I travel there myself). I think the kids will like it alot, and I, as their leader, can feel comfortable with their wanderings.




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AnneParis - Greece reviews for you

I hope this helps you! I haven%26#39;t been frequenting the Greek boards lately, for obvious reasons, though I found their local experts to be very helpful.





REVIEWS/IMPRESSIONS:



In general, July was not a good time to go to Greece (we were hemmed in by my husband%26#39;s conference). Prices were at their peak, tourist crowds were thick, and there was very little opportunity to soak up true Greek culture (as in meeting locals). However, the heat did not bother us, as there is almost always a breeze, and the beauty of the islands, particularly Santorini, is incredible. By the way, Greece is no longer the great deal it used to be, at least when %26amp; where we went!





ATHENS:



- Plaka Hotel. Loved our room with a view (6th floor) and the rooftop bar. Fantastic view was worth the stay. Rooms were simple but clean, and I found the staff perfectly friendly. Elevator was tiny. Breakfast was fine and in a pleasant room overlooking the street. Location was great. Good value.





CRETE:



We went to Rethimno, because that%26#39;s where my husband%26#39;s conference was. Hania was interesting and charming but much bigger than Rethimno. Knossos was disappointing, as it is almost entirely reconstructed (i.e. guesses as to what it looked like). The museum in town is worth going to though.





Rethimno



- Theartemis Palace. We stayed there, because my husband%26#39;s conference was there. Run down and dated. Not great value, though our room was nice (303 - had an ocean view, but we probably got an upgrade because of the baby). We were in the main building, so I can%26#39;t comment on the annex (rooms may be newer but it%26#39;s not as convenient). The pool was lovely, and breakfast was included and pretty good (really friendly staff here in the restaurant). Front desk staff just ok. Weird, loud live music on weekend nights until midnight. Close to the town beaches (though those are overpriced and sort of dirty), but about a mile/mile and a half to old town - which was a nice walk along the beach sidewalk, but old town would be far better to stay in.



- Mythos Suites, where my sister stayed, was more central (great location), had a lovely garden, nice rooms, and a good breakfast with fresh-squeezed orange juice. Eleni is wonderful - the night staff (man) is not.





Rethimno restaurants



- Soukaki: simple but very good food, nice family-run service and very pleasant atmosphere. Recommended!



- Avli: great atmosphere, ok service, food inconsistent (great pork with prune sauce).



To Pigadi: lovely atmosphere, great appetizers (vine leaves and fried eggplant) but mediocre main dishes, bad service.



Alana: the best of the bunch, GREAT service (Alexis was the waiter), lovely atmosphere, good wine, great appetizers (mixed cooked greens and vine leaves), good main dishes (though not amazing).



Hari%26#39;s: great coffee, friendly staff, yummy food (crepes), nice location (soccer jerseys and Greek products nearby).



Rethimno activities: old town nice, rent car to go to beaches near Georgeopoulos (10km away). Nice beaches, not crowded, clean, affordable to rent umbrellas and chairs (3 of us for 7.15 euros).





SANTORINI:



Definitely stay in Oia!



- Volcano%26#39;s Villas. A bit of a walk to the main part of town, but we enjoyed the exercise, and of course, the walk was gorgeous (looking over the caldera). Very reasonable compared to the %26quot;in town%26quot; places, and the guests were incredibly friendly. Large, comfortable rooms, each with their own terrace and mini-kitchen. Incredible views. The small village across the street, Finikia, is very charming to wander through and is %26quot;original%26quot; (that is, not destroyed during the earthquake). Very family friendly - many of the guests were returning families from England, Canada, Denmark, etc. - and honeymooners were also there.



- If you want to stay more centrally in Oia, I recommend Esperas, which looked gorgeous and prices seemed reasonable, compared to some of the other, similar establishments. We talked to a very happy honeymooning couple who was staying there.



- We splurged on a dinner at Selene in Fira, known as one of the best restaurants in Greece. It was indeed lovely and good food, but I%26#39;m not sure it was worth it - good food and amazing views are in many places on the island.



- A must-do is to do the long walk down at the end of Oia to Amoudi, where there are several great seafood restaurants at the water%26#39;s edge.



- Our favorite restaurant on the whole island was the Restaurant Finikia, part of the Hotel Finikia, just before the town of Oia. You%26#39;d never guess it, but the food was out of this world and beautifully presented, with a view to the other side of the island (not the caldera but beautiful nonetheless). We went back a couple of times and still dream about that place.




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Islatch,



Wow thanks for your post ! But you know, I have been there last summer (and I really loved it, specially Santorini). I stayed in a great hotel in Imerovigli, the Imerovigli Palace. We have also been to Selene, and I totally agree with you : good food but not worth the price !



I really appreciate your post though ! That%26#39;s very kind of you.




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Ah, ok... well, it was good for me to get my notes into shape anyway ; ) ... talk about procrastination!





If you return, eating at the Restaurant Finikia (on the right hand side of the road about 2 kms? before Oia is really a treat and FAR, FAR cheaper than Selene. I don%26#39;t know why the cook is there and not %26quot;discovered%26quot; - I almost felt like his gorgeous presentation was wasted on our casual lunch! (not really, but you know what I mean).





Anyway, have a great trip!






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air fares in june/july

I keep reading all these older posts about fare sales with 300-400 round trip tickets from the US to France, but we%26#39;re travelling in late June/early July for our honeymoon (so the dates aren%26#39;t very flexible) and fares are through the roof! The cheapest I can find comes to be over $1000 each. I know it%26#39;s a popular time to travel and fares are just going to be higher, but will there be any fare sales likely or should I just suck it up?




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When specifically are your dates? We are going for our honeymoon, as well, but in early June. We bought at $900 with Air France with a layover in Boston, but I saw $800 with Continental after we bought them. These were only short-term sales (weekends). Ours were purchased in September, and the other sale was in November. Just keep checking fares every day through www.mobissimo.com or www.kayak.com and jump on a good deal. Anyways, good luck and congratulations on getting married and going to Paris!




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June and July are high season so it may be hard to find low rates. This will be even truer with little flexibility. There is a new airline, all Business class with similar rates but it only goes between Newark, N.J and Orly ( far more preferable than CDG. It is L%26#39;Avion at lavion.com





Do you have any frequent flier miles with any airlines? If so some may partner with Air France or others that fly to Paris like Continental, etc. At least that way you might get an upgrade. We Fares are also cheaper than oher types of fares.





Congratulations on the marriage.




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Hey, I%26#39;m taking my honeymoon in early June. No, you%26#39;re not going to find much under $1000. I was able to score tickets on icelandair for $850/person. Might want to check them out on www.travelocity.com. It%26#39;s cheaper on there than the icelandair website.





Just checking today, the same tickets are up to $910. You probably want to get them soon.





I even tried flying into london or other airports on the cheap carriers and taking the train into Paris, but it only saved like $50 overall...not worth the hassle of having to take the train after a 9 hour flight.




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hotel fertel etoile

hi does any one have an email for hotel fertel etoile in paris, also need to know if they have a triple room



thank you



fine208




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This site is a direct booking page and indicates that they have a three bedded room:





www.fertelhotels.com/hotel-standalone.php…




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thank you for this



fine




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